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February 24, 2004

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JD writes: "Will Weblogs make copy editors obsolete? ...all bloggers would benefit from an additional set of eyes (ie, an editor or two)."

I agree. One of the basics concepts of blogging is that it is "the unedited voice of a person". And I firmly believe that a blog should not be edited for content by a second party. But most blogs that I read would benefit from "copy editing". Spelling, punctuation, things like that.

What I've been thinking is this: We should all get ourselves a blog buddy. Someone who also blogs, and has about the same writing skills, and prolific-ness (see what I mean about needing copy-editing? loquacity?). Agree with this person that you will read each other's blog daily, and exchange corrections for things like spelling, punctuation, and writing clarity.

It would hel[.

Posted by jghiii at February 24, 2004 06:54 PM
Posted by: sherman on February 24, 2004 07:29 PM

You don't need a blog buddy. You have us.

When you make a mistake, we'll point it out.
When you try to change the way comments are displayed, we'll cry foul.
When you try to marry a girl we don't approve us, we'll kidnap her and tie a block of cement to her neck and throw her into the Atlantic.

We're there for you, Jack.

Posted by: Steve Garfield on February 24, 2004 07:34 PM

I'm here for you Jack:

It would hel[.

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It would help.


Posted by: sherman on February 24, 2004 08:35 PM

Oooh oooh oooh! I wanna help too!

See where you have Gone East label? Well it's located on the west side of Fenway Park, so you should move it over to the East Side. :)

And that picture of you should be updated. Didn't you take that pic when you were like 55? You should post a more recent one.

Posted by: Jo Ann on February 25, 2004 01:21 AM

Oh, now this is interesting. First, do you really want to have a blog buddy with the same writing skills as you? Doesn't that defeat the purpose, Jack?

There is quite a distinction between writers and copy editors (I've got both professional writers and copy editors in my family). The difference is that writers often "can't write" grammatically speaking (say the copy editors). And copy editors don't "create"--they just correct the writer's words and phrasings. They're quite different, but the world needs both!

I love Sherman's suggestions! First about the girl, yes, the Atlantic, we all know it too well. Or, if you come out here to the Pacific, we can bring her fishing to the Berkeley Marina, by way of Modesto...

Now really, I like the idea of moving Gone East to the left... very clever! That is really more of a graphic design, but yes, excellent idea!

Personally, I am fond of Jack's picture. He's got my favorite Crash Davis jacket on! ;-)

Jack baby: Here's a correction for you for the next time you say "alot"--it's "a lot", as in two words! Like my name!

Posted by: Jo Ann on February 25, 2004 03:45 AM

Oops! I needed that copy editor on my last entry. I wrote that I liked Sherman's idea of the "Gone East" logo moved to the left, when I meant the right! It is a good idea, Jack!

By the way, isn't that cool Crash Davis picture of you taken on the "Left Coast"? It just looks familiar to me, like other pictures of you in Carmel or someplace. Plus the water is on the left, so it must be the West Coast... I kid, I kid! At least you are on the East side of the photo! :-)

Posted by: dah on February 25, 2004 12:35 PM

Left and right should never be associated with east and west...
The Pacific ocean is the left coast only if your a Mexican talking to an American, but if your a Canadian talking to an American then the Pacific.
is the on the right.

And I wondered, do people living in California consider places like Kansas the Mid west, or Mid east ???

Posted by: sherman on February 25, 2004 01:11 PM

When I first moved to Cali, I found out that my concept of west and east was ocean based. For a few months when I got out here, I would think that San Francisco is east of Berkeley because that was the direction the ocean was in. I adjusted.

However, I still don't have full recognition of left and right. It's bad because it's not that I don't know them -- I don't stand and think hard trying to figure out which is which. The trouble is that I think I know when I don't. My mind says that one side is left and I refer to it, but about half the time I am wrong -- and I don't realize I'm wrong until someone points it out, especially after I just gave them directions that are all messed up.

I used to know them. But somewhere around age 14 I started losing it and by the time I graduated high school (Go Red Raiders!) I no longer could trust my ability to identify one over the other.

As for Kansas, we don't think about it at all. It's somewhere in the middle with Idaho and Iowa and all those others punkassbitch states that voted for Bush.

Posted by: Jack Hodgson on February 25, 2004 01:26 PM

When Sherm was in college (and I was still in elementary school) he used to drive us around town. He taught us to give him driving directions not by using "right" and "left". We were taught to use the standardized arrangement of the knobs on a water faucet.

"Sherm, turn cold at the next lights, then take your second hot."

Posted by: sherman on February 25, 2004 01:30 PM

Yeah, hot and cold. I could do hot and cold. That was a clever solution to the problem.

What's colder than cold? ICE COLD!

Posted by: Jack Hodgson on February 25, 2004 01:30 PM

Sherm wrote, "When I first moved to Cali, I found out that my concept of west and east was ocean based."

Me too. About a year after I first moved out to Calif. I was back east on a visit. I did something that made me realize that I had really become a west-coaster.

I had opened a New England road map, and for a split second I was puzzled that it didn't look like the New England I remembered. But then I realized I had spread out the map with the Atlantic Ocean on the left.

Posted by: Jo Ann on February 26, 2004 05:30 AM

Whaaaat DAH?

Regarding the right/left & east/west thing... if the Pacific Ocean is to the right when a Canadian is talking to an American (I guess that means he's yelling from across from the border), then Australians must walk around upside down!

The Pacific is too on the left! Because we measure with the North being up! Maybe this is an "Ask Marilyn" question. Do I need to write to Parade Magazine?!

Posted by: Jo Ann on February 26, 2004 06:38 AM

Oh, regarding whether Californians view Kansas as in the Midwest or Mideast... Neither!

Of course, we all know that there is no region called the "Mideast"! And the region known as the Midwest is geographically in the "Mideast"... but it's called the Midwest because it was named before the geographical West was heavily populated. Yes, even us Californians know this!

Now, Kansas is not in the Midwest. Kansas is in the Great Plains! Missouri is the state farthest west in the Midwest region.

Now, I gotta defend Kansas and Missouri... I stayed extensively in both states (yes, Jack... I slept there, so they count!) and they are both cool states. In fact, Kansas City, Mo is a totally rockin' city! It really is very, very cosmopolitan!

Bit o' trivia: Rome has more fountains than any city in the entire world and Kansas City, MO comes in second! It's known as the City of Fountains. Now, I am a California girl through and through, but I gotta defend a few of my other hoods!

Talking about the east/west thing... I lived a couple summers in a beach town in Maryland and it felt really, really weird to be driving north with the ocean on my right! And there's no sunset on the ocean! What's that all about? Sunrises are not the same! I'm not knockin' the East Coast at all (love it there), but I gotta say that nothing beats a Southern California sunset! Well, Hawaii's right up there. Okay, Hawaii and So-Cal have the best sunsets.

FYI: In my native North San Diego County beachtown, the north/south Interstate (I-5) is less than half a mile from the Pacific Ocean. A common moto there (often found on bumper stickers): "There is no life East of I-5" (I'm just saying...)

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